one of the things putin has to be aware of, if he shakes the energy tree very hard, he's going to persuade europeans they can no longer afford to rely on natural gas. they will be able to go their own way with a combination of slal from europe, england and imported from the united states. catr and others from europe, many building receiving stations to take that lng now. >> clearly the immediate impact is a massive destabilization of the ukrainian economy. maybe they underestimated the amount of the aid that was propping up and ukraine could also ab factor. no? >> it's a big factor. ukraine is going to be destabilized economically as a result of this no matter what. even if putin decides to let go of crimea, pull out, owes billions to russia for natural gas. so if the european and united states step in, essentially subs diesing russian natural gas. it's exported to ukraine at a price far in excess of what we pay in the united states and well above any economic costs. pure gravy, russia exported to ukraine. >> general, little rock, arkansas, always a pressure. we thank you. we'll be right b